Neckties Banned for Healthcare Professionals?

Dr. John Ryan

It was 25 years ago that I began my internship at Virginia Mason Medical Center in Seattle. The dress code was essential. Outside of the operating room all surgical residents were to wear a dress shirt, a tie, and a white lab coat (interns coats were a different size than residents).

You could wear scrubs, but when seeing patients you had to wear a jacket – and if you were in clinic, there was no reason to wear scrubs, all of us needed to have a dress shirt with tie and the famous white jacket.

The program director, John A. Ryan, would walk by- straighten out my tie, “Looking good Simpson.” Never, never, never would it cross my mind to wear an open collared shirt.  Dr. Ryan clearly believed a meticulously dressed surgeon translated into meticulous surgery. For many things Dr. Ryan was our mentor, the one surgeon who demanded absolute operative perfection. He demanded precise surgery, careful handling of tissues, knowledge of the literature, and knowledge of anatomy. Seeing Dr. Ryan do the operation was like watching a textbook- the anatomy was clear and crisp. We all wanted to operate like he did. So we all dressed like him.

After surgical residency seeing surgeons who wore open collar shirts in Phoenix bothered me. They were not like Dr. Ryan!

Then the studies showed that neckties could be carriers for bad bugs, like MRSA, and others. More and more studies have shown an increasing colonization of neckties with pathogenic bacteria.

Legislators in New York are considering banning the necktie from all health care professionals.

Dr. Ryan, I still abide by your operative principles – but now, I wear scrubs almost all the time. They are clean, fresh and allow patients to know I am still a surgeon, but I just cannot wear the tie any longer. I knew Dr. Ryan would be wrong about something someday – just didn’t know it would take me 25 years to find out what it was.

Dr. Terry Simpson About Dr. Terry Simpson
Dr. Terry Simpson received his undergraduate and graduate degrees from the University of Chicago where he spent several years in the Kovler Viral Oncology laboratories doing genetic engineering. He found he liked people more than petri dishes, and went to medical school. Dr. Simpson, a weight loss surgeon is an advocate of culinary medicine. The first surgeon to become certified in Culinary Medicine, he believes teaching people to improve their health through their food and in their kitchen. On the other side of the world, he has been a leading advocate of changing health care to make it more "relationship based," and his efforts awarded his team the Malcolm Baldrige award for healthcare in 2011 for the NUKA system of care in Alaska and in 2013 Dr Simpson won the National Indian Health Board Area Impact Award. A frequent contributor to media outlets discussing health related topics and advances in medicine, he is also a proud dad, husband, author, cook, and surgeon “in that order.” For media inquiries, please visit

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  1. Daniel says:

    Ties have been always a risk for crossed infection, that’s well known, and that happens for sure when physicians does not care to keep their whitecoat closed. I love scrubs too, they’re designed for comfort during long hours being on call or doing procedures, however I feel kind of advocate of wearing a tie to be in the clinic, It’s might just be how patients still want to see us.

  2. thedoc says:

    The reality of germs is that we need to move to something that is universally safe, and works. Ties are not. They are an old fashion statement from years ago. Originally designed to hide another infection

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